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* The Next Console Manufacturer - Electronic Arts? - 5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.nintendo.wii/t/13820baab3024d81
* Get ready to shit bricks over Wii's November NPD - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.nintendo.wii/t/74ed37a2c05c7841

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TOPIC: The Next Console Manufacturer - Electronic Arts?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.nintendo.wii/t/13820baab3024d81
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun 11 Jan 2009 21:30
From: Rich Hutnik


On Jan 11, 7:50 pm, parallax-scroll <parallaxscr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 10, 4:40 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.gamestooge.com/2009/01/10/feature-next-console-manufacture...
>
> > Enjoy this vision of doom.
>
> 3DO was once enough for EA to be in the console hardware buisness.
> They won't try again.

3DO was the brainchild of Trip Hawkins, NOT Electronic Arts. Trip
also founded EA, and had relationship with them, but the 3DO wasn't
EA's console.

On this note, I believe this would be great news to help bury EA. The
moment they do that, one can imagine the NFL saying they won't renew
their exclusive license. It also, for me, makes it a LOT easier to
boycott them, because all I have to do is NOT buy their console.

Anyhow, one possible scenario is that EA partners with Sega again, and
they both release a console together.

- Rich


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon 12 Jan 2009 07:03
From: The alMIGHTY N


On Jan 12, 12:30 am, Rich Hutnik <richardhut...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 11, 7:50 pm, parallax-scroll <parallaxscr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 10, 4:40 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.gamestooge.com/2009/01/10/feature-next-console-manufacture...
>
> > > Enjoy this vision of doom.
>
> > 3DO was once enough for EA to be in the console hardware buisness.
> > They won't try again.
>
> 3DO was the brainchild of Trip Hawkins, NOT Electronic Arts.  Trip
> also founded EA, and had relationship with them, but the 3DO wasn't
> EA's console.
>
> On this note, I believe this would be great news to help bury EA.  The
> moment they do that, one can imagine the NFL saying they won't renew
> their exclusive license.  It also, for me, makes it a LOT easier to
> boycott them, because all I have to do is NOT buy their console.
>
> Anyhow, one possible scenario is that EA partners with Sega again, and
> they both release a console together.

I would *LOVE* another Sega system. I'm still stinging from the
Dreamcast's demise and still hook that bad boy up every so often.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon 12 Jan 2009 13:10
From: Doug Jacobs


In alt.games.video.xbox Jordan <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Remember the big reason DIVX failed? DIVX was the brainchild of
> Circuit City. All the other electronics retailers realized that if
> they carried and sold DIVX equipment or discs that money would be
> going to their competitor. Nobody else carried DIVX other than Circuit
> City and it died a swift death.

Well, that and the fact that DIVX just sucked.

> I think we'd be looking at an equivalent if EA made a console.
> Activision, Ubisoft and the rest wouldn't make games for it because it
> would pad the bottom line of their biggest competitor. The only way EA
> would get people to buy it would be if they stopped making games for
> other consoles which would hurt them financially.
>
> In the end I don't see it happening.

What about Madden? Surely that'd be enough revenue to keep the console
somewhat afloat just by itself, no?

Still, I can't see it happening. It'd be like having to buy a 2nd console
if you wanted to play EA games, and another console for everything else.
I can't see any 3rd party developers wanting to develop for such a thing.

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It's not broken. It's...advanced.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon 12 Jan 2009 13:30
From: The alMIGHTY N


On Jan 12, 4:10 pm, Doug Jacobs <djac...@rawbw.com> wrote:
> In alt.games.video.xbox Jordan <lu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Remember the big reason DIVX failed? DIVX was the brainchild of
> > Circuit City.

To be fair, it wasn't just their idiocy. They were working with an
entertainment law firm who I think was actually the originator of the
idea and Circuit City partnered on.

> > All the other electronics retailers realized that if
> > they carried and sold DIVX equipment or discs that money would be
> > going to their competitor. Nobody else carried DIVX other than Circuit
> > City and it died a swift death.

There were a few retailers that sold DIVX. One was the big Canadian
chain Future Shop and another one was that Good Guys chain in
California. It was by no means an exclusive technology.

In any case, the main reason that the format failed is that people
didn't like the idea of buying a disc but still having to rent the
movie. There was a huge uproar online about how the format wasn't
"open."

Add to that the fact that most movies had *no* special features and
were in full screen instead of widescreen and you had a project that
was pretty much DOA.

> Well, that and the fact that DIVX just sucked.
>
> > I think we'd be looking at an equivalent if EA made a console.
> > Activision, Ubisoft and the rest wouldn't make games for it because it
> > would pad the bottom line of their biggest competitor. The only way EA
> > would get people to buy it would be if they stopped making games for
> > other consoles which would hurt them financially.
>
> > In the end I don't see it happening.
>
> What about Madden? Surely that'd be enough revenue to keep the console
> somewhat afloat just by itself, no?

Hardly. Madden is a popular game but even now its sales aren't nearly
what they used to be and they'd be losing out on a lot of those sales
to gamers who won't jump to a new platform just for the one game.

If you have a console that pretty much only serves up EA games, you're
going to have a fan base that consists pretty much only of gamers who
are diehard EA fans.

> Still, I can't see it happening. It'd be like having to buy a 2nd console
> if you wanted to play EA games, and another console for everything else.
> I can't see any 3rd party developers wanting to develop for such a thing.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon 12 Jan 2009 14:43
From: "Tom"


"The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f71ddb7c-1e74-4db2-b278-c273abb0ffa4@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 12, 12:30 am, Rich Hutnik <richardhut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 11, 7:50 pm, parallax-scroll <parallaxscr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Jan 10, 4:40 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >http://www.gamestooge.com/2009/01/10/feature-next-console-manufacture...
>>
>> > > Enjoy this vision of doom.
>>
>> > 3DO was once enough for EA to be in the console hardware buisness.
>> > They won't try again.
>>
>> 3DO was the brainchild of Trip Hawkins, NOT Electronic Arts. Trip
>> also founded EA, and had relationship with them, but the 3DO wasn't
>> EA's console.
>>
>> On this note, I believe this would be great news to help bury EA. The
>> moment they do that, one can imagine the NFL saying they won't renew
>> their exclusive license. It also, for me, makes it a LOT easier to
>> boycott them, because all I have to do is NOT buy their console.
>>
>> Anyhow, one possible scenario is that EA partners with Sega again, and
>> they both release a console together.
>
> I would *LOVE* another Sega system. I'm still stinging from the
> Dreamcast's demise and still hook that bad boy up every so often.

It's too bad bad Sega shot themselves in the foot with the way they handled
the Saturn into the Dreamcast transition. IMO, that system blew away the
Xbox and the PS2 for quality games during its first year.


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TOPIC: Get ready to shit bricks over Wii's November NPD
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.nintendo.wii/t/74ed37a2c05c7841
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon 12 Jan 2009 06:57
From: Pepsiman


I bought my psp3 for the blu ray player the game are just a plus For
the price it's rated one of the top blu ray players out there. I
agree for a game console it's priced too high. I thnk that's why
they keep selling.


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