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* Michael Pachter: Wii and Wii HD to be similar to PS2 / PS3 - 2 messages, 2
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TOPIC: Michael Pachter: Wii and Wii HD to be similar to PS2 / PS3
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.nintendo.wii/t/17376a8684dd4df2
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues 28 Jul 2009 17:12
From: Miles Bader
The alMIGHTY N <natlee75@yahoo.com> writes:
> It sounds like what I wanted right from the beginning, which was a
> console with the features of the Wii but the graphical quality and
> processing power of *at least* an Xbox.
Hmm, the gamecube was on part with the original xbox... and the wii's at
least as powerful as the gc ... so you've already gotten your wish! hooray!
-Miles
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed 29 Jul 2009 05:54
From: "Tom"
"The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 28, 5:15 pm, "Tom" <no...@nothere.com> wrote:
>> "The alMIGHTY N" <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:13ad5b05-07c2-45cc-b201-d81c4ce6a351@r24g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
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>> > On Jul 27, 8:22 pm, parallax-scroll <parallaxscr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Jul 27, 4:38 pm, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> >> > On Jul 27, 1:09 pm, parallax-scroll <parallaxscr...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
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>> >> > > Analyst: Wii and Wii HD Will Be Similar to PS2/PS3
>>
>> >> > > A "Wii HD" has been one of the longest swirling rumors in the
>> >> > > business, and one analyst in particular has touted its feasibility
>> >> > > more than most: Wedbush Securites Analyst Michael Pachter. Late
>> >> > > last
>> >> > > month the analyst released a brief on the industry, where he
>> >> > > predicted
>> >> > > that a Wii HD would be coming:
>>
>> >> > > "We expect Nintendo to sustain [their] competitive advantage by
>> >> > > introducing a high definition version of the Wii, perhaps as early
>> >> > > as
>> >> > > the end of 2010, in order to convert its large installed base into
>> >> > > true 'next-generation' households," Pachter said in June.
>>
>> >> > > How, if Nintendo intends to do this, would they market this new
>> >> > > high-
>> >> > > definition device? Would they phase out the current Wii system, or
>> >> > > treat the upgrade much in the same vein as the DS,DS Liteand DSi?
>> >> > > Neither, Pachter told us — look at the Wii and Wii HD as the
>> >> > >PlayStation 2andPlayStation 3.
>>
>> >> > > "Of course, it's just speculation," Pachter prefaced in an e-mail
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > EndSights, "but I see them having two consoles in the market at
>> >> > > once,
>> >> > > more like PS2 and PS3. They will likely try to get consumers to
>> >> > > trade
>> >> > > up to the Wii Plus while still selling the Wii for $100 cheaper."
>>
>> >> > >http://www.endsights.com/2009/07/24/analyst-wii-and-wii-hd-will-be-si...
>>
>> >> > The comparison to thePlayStation 2andPlayStation 3doesn't make any
>> >> > sense unless the Wii HD is truly a next-generation version of the
>> >> > Wii
>> >> > with serious upgrades (aside from just going to 720p or 1080p).
>>
>> >> Wii HD's graphical horsepower is supposed to be MORE than just the Wii
>> >> (which is basicly a faster GameCube with more RAM) doing native HD
>> >> resolution. The leap from Wii to Wii HD is meant to be a leap like
>> >> going from GameBoy to GameBoy Advance or NES to SNES. or PS2 to
>> >> PS3.
>>
>> >> Nintendo has apparently increased its R&D spending massively, since
>> >> after the Wii was released. This is not proof, but a fairly credible
>> >> report, one NOT by Pachter:
>> >>http://www.whattheyplay.com/blog/2008/09/30/new-wii-due-by-2011/
>>
>> > Ah...
>>
>> > In that case, I say bring it on. The sooner, the better. Anything to
>> > get the next generation started. If it arrives by 2011, that will only
>> > be 5 years for Nintendo.
>>
>> > And you know that if Microsoft and Sony believe this, they'll
>> > definitely be prepping their next generation consoles sooner rather
>> > than later.
>>
>> > Suh-weet!
>>
>> I would love that as well, only if the next gen is truly next gen. The
>> 360
>> didn't seem like a huge upgrade over the Xbox.
>
> ??
>
> The difference is day and night. Graphics are *significantly* better,
> worlds are larger, performance has improved, load times have
> decreased. Day and night.
For some games, maybe 'significantly', but not most. The 360 was touted as
as being a quantum leap, and it wasn't anything like that. I see
similarities in character models from og Xbox games to 360 games as an
example.
>
>> I'd still rather wait for
>> some real upgrades in graphics, AI and physics for the next gen, if it
>> even
>> means that waiting for that kind of hardware to be cheap enough to make
>> it
>> palatable for the average joe, so sales do well, would be just fine by
>> me. I
>> want quality this time.
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