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* Multiple Sources Confirm New Nintendo HD Console - 4 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Multiple Sources Confirm New Nintendo HD Console
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.nintendo.wii/t/6f7387492d9df2a9
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun 17 Apr 2011 03:55
From: The Closer


Here are some real facts;

Controller
- 6" touchscreen, not HD, not multitouch
- D-Pad, L, R, two triggers, others
- 'Front-facing camera'
- A sensor roughly analagous to the Wii sensor bar is incorporated in
the controller - i.e. some kind of IR beacons/transmitters. Purpose
isn't clear.

Specs
- Custom triple-core PowerPC
- AMD/ATI GPU. 'Probably' derived from R700 series.
- RAM unknown
- Developer quotes: graphics capabilities "roughly equal to those of
the Xbox 360", performance "over the Xbox 360, but just a notch"

Misc
- One other 'huge surprise' about the system

Taken from:

http://www.01net.com/editorial/53166...-pour-manette/

http://www.01net.com/editorial/53168...s-de-la-wii-2/


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon 18 Apr 2011 07:31
From: The alMIGHTY N


On Apr 15, 11:57 am, The Closer <sweet.lou.ferri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 1:36 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 15, 9:10 am, The Closer <sweet.lou.ferri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 15, 5:34 am, parallax-scroll <parallaxscr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Gamers have been waiting years for Nintendo to finally release its Wii
> > > > successor, and Game Informer has heard from multiple sources that the
> > > > company will unveil it at E3 this summer if not sooner.
>
> > > > We have confirmed with multiple sources that this new home system is
> > > > capable of running games at HD resolutions. There are conflicting
> > > > reports, however, as to whether its graphics will be comparable to
> > > > those on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 – meaning it could surpass or
> > > > fall short of those systems. Either way it will offer competitive
> > > > specifications. Moving to HD should greatly help Nintendo and its new
> > > > console in getting more multi-platform triple-A titles like Portal 2
> > > > or Mortal Kombat. This, in turn, will strengthen Nintendo's
> > > > historically poor relationship with third-party publishers/developers.
>
> > > > In fact, Nintendo is already showing publishers the system in an
> > > > effort to get them interested and allow them plenty of time to start
> > > > developing titles in anticipation of the system's reported late 2012
> > > > launch. This advance support marks a change from when the Wii
> > > > launched. At that time, several Western publishers were outright
> > > > surprised by the announcement, and it affected the software support
> > > > for the platform.
>
> > > > Nintendo president Satoru Iwata himself acknowledged that it needs to
> > > > do a better job with its publishing partners at a 3DS press conference
> > > > in the fall of 2010. "We need to decrease the concern that only
> > > > Nintendo software can sell well on Nintendo platforms and third-party
> > > > software cannot sell in the same volume. We feel a need to have closer
> > > > ties with our third-party developers from the beginning."
>
> > > > "Nintendo is doing this one right," said an anonymous source. "[It's]
> > > > not a gimmick like the Wii." What else, beyond graphics, this may
> > > > infer about the system is unknown. What kind of controls the system
> > > > will support (we imagine a need for both classic analog configurations
> > > > and motion controllers) or what level of software and infrastructure
> > > > Nintendo will provide for online gaming is also unknown. However, it's
> > > > a positive sign that the system might be more than just an HD Wii.
>
> > > > We've heard about an HD Wii for some time now, and the time is perfect
> > > > – almost necessary – for Nintendo to jump start itself with this new
> > > > system. The company has been feeling the bite since Wii sales have
> > > > declined from previous years, and this week's news that Nintendo could
> > > > be dropping the price of the Wii on May 15 could be a precursor to
> > > > this announcement and an attempt to move as many Wii units as possible
> > > > out of the retail channel before the new system hits.
>
> > > > We do not have confirmation if this new system will be backward
> > > > compatible with the Wii or if it will even carry the Wii branding as
> > > > has often been rumored. It is our understanding that Nintendo is
> > > > trying to embrace the western gamer and will likely launch a new brand
> > > > with this console. Around the office we have dubbed the system
> > > > Nintendo HD. However, this information at this point is conjecture.
>
> > > > We contacted a Nintendo representative regarding this information, and
> > > > while they wouldn't comment on it or the company's E3 plans, they did
> > > > sign off with a intriguing "stay tuned."
>
> > > > Either way, it should be an exciting E3 for Nintendo and gamers alike.
>
> > > >http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/04/14/new-nintendo-co...
>
> > > 1080p, touch screen on the new motion controller, more powerful GPU
> > > than the PS360. Well, done Nintendo, you've certainly given the other
> > > two companies something to think about.
>
> > IGN reports that their own sources have told them that the console is
> > "significantly more powerful than the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360" and
> > that "Nintendo's intent is to recapture the hardcore market."
>
> > Where did you hear about the touch screen? I of course would have to
> > actually see how it would be used to make a call, but on paper it
> > seems like that would actually be detrimental since you would kind of
> > need to look at the touch screen while you were playing.
>
> Well, this article says it will have a HD screenhttp://www.computerandvideogames.com/298241/news/wii-2-has-all-new-hd...
>
> I chatted with somebody at Nintendo today and specifically asked about
> it, to which he replied: "maybe", which is more or less a "yes"

Since my post I've read a few reports that have agreed with what you
said. I actually just read something on IGN that goes so far as to say
that you can stream entire games to your controller and take that on
the go, that the screen would essentially be like a mini TV.

If that's true, and if you really can stream entire games (or even
entire levels instead of the whole game) that would be pretty damn
cool for me.

The more I read about this new console the more I realize I'm going to
buy it. ;-)


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon 18 Apr 2011 07:31
From: The alMIGHTY N


On Apr 15, 10:44 pm, The Closer <sweet.lou.ferri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 1:57 am, The Closer <sweet.lou.ferri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 1:36 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 15, 9:10 am, The Closer <sweet.lou.ferri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 15, 5:34 am, parallax-scroll <parallaxscr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Gamers have been waiting years for Nintendo to finally release its Wii
> > > > > successor, and Game Informer has heard from multiple sources that the
> > > > > company will unveil it at E3 this summer if not sooner.
>
> > > > > We have confirmed with multiple sources that this new home system is
> > > > > capable of running games at HD resolutions. There are conflicting
> > > > > reports, however, as to whether its graphics will be comparable to
> > > > > those on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 – meaning it could surpass or
> > > > > fall short of those systems. Either way it will offer competitive
> > > > > specifications. Moving to HD should greatly help Nintendo and its new
> > > > > console in getting more multi-platform triple-A titles like Portal 2
> > > > > or Mortal Kombat. This, in turn, will strengthen Nintendo's
> > > > > historically poor relationship with third-party publishers/developers.
>
> > > > > In fact, Nintendo is already showing publishers the system in an
> > > > > effort to get them interested and allow them plenty of time to start
> > > > > developing titles in anticipation of the system's reported late 2012
> > > > > launch. This advance support marks a change from when the Wii
> > > > > launched. At that time, several Western publishers were outright
> > > > > surprised by the announcement, and it affected the software support
> > > > > for the platform.
>
> > > > > Nintendo president Satoru Iwata himself acknowledged that it needs to
> > > > > do a better job with its publishing partners at a 3DS press conference
> > > > > in the fall of 2010. "We need to decrease the concern that only
> > > > > Nintendo software can sell well on Nintendo platforms and third-party
> > > > > software cannot sell in the same volume. We feel a need to have closer
> > > > > ties with our third-party developers from the beginning."
>
> > > > > "Nintendo is doing this one right," said an anonymous source. "[It's]
> > > > > not a gimmick like the Wii." What else, beyond graphics, this may
> > > > > infer about the system is unknown. What kind of controls the system
> > > > > will support (we imagine a need for both classic analog configurations
> > > > > and motion controllers) or what level of software and infrastructure
> > > > > Nintendo will provide for online gaming is also unknown. However, it's
> > > > > a positive sign that the system might be more than just an HD Wii.
>
> > > > > We've heard about an HD Wii for some time now, and the time is perfect
> > > > > – almost necessary – for Nintendo to jump start itself with this new
> > > > > system. The company has been feeling the bite since Wii sales have
> > > > > declined from previous years, and this week's news that Nintendo could
> > > > > be dropping the price of the Wii on May 15 could be a precursor to
> > > > > this announcement and an attempt to move as many Wii units as possible
> > > > > out of the retail channel before the new system hits.
>
> > > > > We do not have confirmation if this new system will be backward
> > > > > compatible with the Wii or if it will even carry the Wii branding as
> > > > > has often been rumored. It is our understanding that Nintendo is
> > > > > trying to embrace the western gamer and will likely launch a new brand
> > > > > with this console. Around the office we have dubbed the system
> > > > > Nintendo HD. However, this information at this point is conjecture.
>
> > > > > We contacted a Nintendo representative regarding this information, and
> > > > > while they wouldn't comment on it or the company's E3 plans, they did
> > > > > sign off with a intriguing "stay tuned."
>
> > > > > Either way, it should be an exciting E3 for Nintendo and gamers alike.
>
> > > > >http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/04/14/new-nintendo-co...
>
> > > > 1080p, touch screen on the new motion controller, more powerful GPU
> > > > than the PS360. Well, done Nintendo, you've certainly given the other
> > > > two companies something to think about.
>
> > > IGN reports that their own sources have told them that the console is
> > > "significantly more powerful than the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360" and
> > > that "Nintendo's intent is to recapture the hardcore market."
>
> > > Where did you hear about the touch screen? I of course would have to
> > > actually see how it would be used to make a call, but on paper it
> > > seems like that would actually be detrimental since you would kind of
> > > need to look at the touch screen while you were playing.
>
> > Well, this article says it will have a HD screenhttp://www.computerandvideogames.com/298241/news/wii-2-has-all-new-hd...
>
> > I chatted with somebody at Nintendo today and specifically asked about
> > it, to which he replied: "maybe", which is more or less a "yes"
>
> "The site also concurs that the controller is a touch tablet, with
> moderate , sub-HD graphic output with a single-touch 6-inch screen,  a
> front camera which acts as a Wii sensor bar, two d-pads, two bumpers,
> and possibly more than two triggers."
>
> http://www.vg247.com/2011/04/14/report-nintendo-to-announced-wii-succ...

Yep, I'm buying it. ;-)


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon 18 Apr 2011 07:32
From: The alMIGHTY N


On Apr 15, 10:44 pm, The Closer <sweet.lou.ferri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 1:57 am, The Closer <sweet.lou.ferri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 1:36 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 15, 9:10 am, The Closer <sweet.lou.ferri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 15, 5:34 am, parallax-scroll <parallaxscr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Gamers have been waiting years for Nintendo to finally release its Wii
> > > > > successor, and Game Informer has heard from multiple sources that the
> > > > > company will unveil it at E3 this summer if not sooner.
>
> > > > > We have confirmed with multiple sources that this new home system is
> > > > > capable of running games at HD resolutions. There are conflicting
> > > > > reports, however, as to whether its graphics will be comparable to
> > > > > those on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 – meaning it could surpass or
> > > > > fall short of those systems. Either way it will offer competitive
> > > > > specifications. Moving to HD should greatly help Nintendo and its new
> > > > > console in getting more multi-platform triple-A titles like Portal 2
> > > > > or Mortal Kombat. This, in turn, will strengthen Nintendo's
> > > > > historically poor relationship with third-party publishers/developers.
>
> > > > > In fact, Nintendo is already showing publishers the system in an
> > > > > effort to get them interested and allow them plenty of time to start
> > > > > developing titles in anticipation of the system's reported late 2012
> > > > > launch. This advance support marks a change from when the Wii
> > > > > launched. At that time, several Western publishers were outright
> > > > > surprised by the announcement, and it affected the software support
> > > > > for the platform.
>
> > > > > Nintendo president Satoru Iwata himself acknowledged that it needs to
> > > > > do a better job with its publishing partners at a 3DS press conference
> > > > > in the fall of 2010. "We need to decrease the concern that only
> > > > > Nintendo software can sell well on Nintendo platforms and third-party
> > > > > software cannot sell in the same volume. We feel a need to have closer
> > > > > ties with our third-party developers from the beginning."
>
> > > > > "Nintendo is doing this one right," said an anonymous source. "[It's]
> > > > > not a gimmick like the Wii." What else, beyond graphics, this may
> > > > > infer about the system is unknown. What kind of controls the system
> > > > > will support (we imagine a need for both classic analog configurations
> > > > > and motion controllers) or what level of software and infrastructure
> > > > > Nintendo will provide for online gaming is also unknown. However, it's
> > > > > a positive sign that the system might be more than just an HD Wii.
>
> > > > > We've heard about an HD Wii for some time now, and the time is perfect
> > > > > – almost necessary – for Nintendo to jump start itself with this new
> > > > > system. The company has been feeling the bite since Wii sales have
> > > > > declined from previous years, and this week's news that Nintendo could
> > > > > be dropping the price of the Wii on May 15 could be a precursor to
> > > > > this announcement and an attempt to move as many Wii units as possible
> > > > > out of the retail channel before the new system hits.
>
> > > > > We do not have confirmation if this new system will be backward
> > > > > compatible with the Wii or if it will even carry the Wii branding as
> > > > > has often been rumored. It is our understanding that Nintendo is
> > > > > trying to embrace the western gamer and will likely launch a new brand
> > > > > with this console. Around the office we have dubbed the system
> > > > > Nintendo HD. However, this information at this point is conjecture.
>
> > > > > We contacted a Nintendo representative regarding this information, and
> > > > > while they wouldn't comment on it or the company's E3 plans, they did
> > > > > sign off with a intriguing "stay tuned."
>
> > > > > Either way, it should be an exciting E3 for Nintendo and gamers alike.
>
> > > > >http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/04/14/new-nintendo-co...
>
> > > > 1080p, touch screen on the new motion controller, more powerful GPU
> > > > than the PS360. Well, done Nintendo, you've certainly given the other
> > > > two companies something to think about.
>
> > > IGN reports that their own sources have told them that the console is
> > > "significantly more powerful than the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360" and
> > > that "Nintendo's intent is to recapture the hardcore market."
>
> > > Where did you hear about the touch screen? I of course would have to
> > > actually see how it would be used to make a call, but on paper it
> > > seems like that would actually be detrimental since you would kind of
> > > need to look at the touch screen while you were playing.
>
> > Well, this article says it will have a HD screenhttp://www.computerandvideogames.com/298241/news/wii-2-has-all-new-hd...
>
> > I chatted with somebody at Nintendo today and specifically asked about
> > it, to which he replied: "maybe", which is more or less a "yes"
>
> "The site also concurs that the controller is a touch tablet, with
> moderate , sub-HD graphic output with a single-touch 6-inch screen,  a
> front camera which acts as a Wii sensor bar, two d-pads, two bumpers,
> and possibly more than two triggers."
>
> http://www.vg247.com/2011/04/14/report-nintendo-to-announced-wii-succ...

IGN states that the controller will have two analog sticks.


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