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* Get ready to shit bricks over Wii's November NPD - 19 messages, 13 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.nintendo.wii/t/74ed37a2c05c7841
* Australia Wii Games for European Wii Console? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.nintendo.wii/t/6d00977f2a963015

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TOPIC: Get ready to shit bricks over Wii's November NPD
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.nintendo.wii/t/74ed37a2c05c7841
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== 1 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs 11 Dec 2008 22:14
From: Rich Hutnik


On Dec 12, 12:20 am, Jordan <lu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Dec 11, 4:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21494
>
> 1. Gears of War 2 (Microsoft, Xbox 360) - 1.56 million
> 2. Call of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard, Xbox 360) - 1.41
> million
> 3. Wii Play (Nintendo, Wii) - 796,000
> 4. Wii Fit (Nintendo, Wii) - 697,000
> 5. Mario Kart (Nintendo, Wii) - 637,00
> 6. Call of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard, PS3) - 597,000
> 7. Guitar Hero: World Tour (Activision Blizzard, Wii) - 475,000
> 8. Left 4 Dead (Electronic Arts, Xbox 360) - 410,000
> 9. Resistance 2 (Sony, PlayStation 3) - 385,000
> 10. Wii Music (Nintendo, Wii) - 297,000
>
> LittleBigPlanet we hardly knew ya...
>
> - Jordan

Weren't LBP and Resistance 2 supposed to clobber Gears 2? LBP is
really good though.

- Rich


== 2 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 04:59
From: "Mattinglyfan"

"Rich Hutnik" <richardhutnik@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9c979062-edb8-48b3-9b86-eeb5d0cf71c1@k41g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 12, 12:20 am, Jordan <lu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Dec 11, 4:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21494
>
> 1. Gears of War 2 (Microsoft, Xbox 360) - 1.56 million
> 2. Call of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard, Xbox 360) - 1.41
> million
> 3. Wii Play (Nintendo, Wii) - 796,000
> 4. Wii Fit (Nintendo, Wii) - 697,000
> 5. Mario Kart (Nintendo, Wii) - 637,00
> 6. Call of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard, PS3) - 597,000
> 7. Guitar Hero: World Tour (Activision Blizzard, Wii) - 475,000
> 8. Left 4 Dead (Electronic Arts, Xbox 360) - 410,000
> 9. Resistance 2 (Sony, PlayStation 3) - 385,000
> 10. Wii Music (Nintendo, Wii) - 297,000
>
> LittleBigPlanet we hardly knew ya...
>
> - Jordan

Weren't LBP and Resistance 2 supposed to clobber Gears 2? LBP is
really good though.

- Rich

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No one said LBP was supposed to clobber anything except Blig. The whole
stupidity of equating sales with quality is definitely wearing thin on me
(to whoever hijacked the thread to try and bash LBP because of sales).
There was no way either of those games could "clobber" Gears 2 in sales and
everyone knew that except for trolls. But LBP is still ranked a full
percentage point higher on gamerankings. If sales = quality, the Wii is a
far superior console to the 360 even if the games are better. If ratings
matter, LBP is the GOTY. Either way, there is no way to spin this to make
MS come out smelling like roses so just accept that the Wii is kicking ass
and Nintendo has already won this generation. BTW, you don't have to use
terms like Gaystation and Xflop to be a fanboy and that is becoming more
obvious by threads like this.

== 3 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 04:58
From: Paul Murray


On 2008-12-12, ksdj1@webtv.net <ksdj1@webtv.net> wrote:
> On Dec 11, 8:12 pm, Rich Hutnik <richardhut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The Wii has gone on to become a phenomenon that transcends
>> videogames.  To know what represents videogames, look at the 360's
>> sales, which are very respectable.
>> And Sony isn't doing too bad itself, but just dwarfed.
> Wow, look at the software sales, 360 has the #1 and #2 position,
> beating the almighty Wii.

And the Wii has 3, 4, 5, 7 and 10.
Can't imagine they are too upset about that.


== 4 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 06:18
From: "Little Charlie"


"Rich Hutnik" <richardhutnik@gmail.com> wrote in message news:0d3514fb-d837-4f9a-b3f2-0bb00cf1658e@f3g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sony PlayStation3 - 378,000
>
> Microsoft Xbox 360 - 836,000
>
> Nintendo Wii - 2.04 MILLION
>
> http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21494

[Plug in comment representing stated of bug-eyedness here]

The Wii has gone on to become a phenomenon that transcends
videogames. To know what represents videogames, look at the 360's
sales, which are very respectable.

And Sony isn't doing too bad itself, but just dwarfed.

- Rich


Oh Yeah!!! My wife and I are BOTH right now "shitting bricks" over stupid game console sales reports. This tripe is so reminiscent of the Commodore 64 days (long before most of you children were illegitimately conceived) when those that preferred Mr. Nibble or Fast Hack'Em to clone "uncopyable C64 game disks" would argue endlessly and pointlessly and would figuratively "walk the plank" to defend the wrongly-perceived honor,glory,righteousness and loyalty to an inanimate object.

So as my wife and I are , at this very moment, "shitting bricks" about console sales we are also puking our guts out ...

Who gives a fuck which console sells #1, #2..but wait!!!! How about game console sales rated at #136? That's right Atari 2600 RULES!!! http://www.strategygamersworld.com/video/Atari2600.jpg You children need a cyber history lesson....

== 5 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 06:32
From: The alMIGHTY N


On Dec 11, 11:18 pm, ks...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Dec 11, 8:12 pm, Rich Hutnik <richardhut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Sony PlayStation3  -  378,000
>
> > > Microsoft Xbox 360 -  836,000
>
> > > Nintendo Wii -  2.04 MILLION
>
> > >http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21494
>
> > [Plug in comment representing stated of bug-eyedness here]
>
> > The Wii has gone on to become a phenomenon that transcends
> > videogames.  To know what represents videogames, look at the 360's
> > sales, which are very respectable.
>
> > And Sony isn't doing too bad itself, but just dwarfed.
>
> > - Rich
>
> Wow, look at the software sales, 360 has the #1 and #2 position,
> beating the almighty Wii.

The Wii has positions 3, 4, 5 and 10. The more notable part is that
those 4 games are all first-party efforts which means Nintendo gets
all of the profit instead of just a licensing cut.


== 6 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 06:37
From: The alMIGHTY N


On Dec 12, 7:59 am, "Mattinglyfan" <kylerjainos...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Rich Hutnik" <richardhut...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9c979062-edb8-48b3-9b86-eeb5d0cf71c1@k41g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 12, 12:20 am, Jordan <lu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 11, 4:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21494
>
> > 1. Gears of War 2 (Microsoft, Xbox 360) - 1.56 million
> > 2. Call of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard, Xbox 360) - 1.41
> > million
> > 3. Wii Play (Nintendo, Wii) - 796,000
> > 4. Wii Fit (Nintendo, Wii) - 697,000
> > 5. Mario Kart (Nintendo, Wii) - 637,00
> > 6. Call of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard, PS3) - 597,000
> > 7. Guitar Hero: World Tour (Activision Blizzard, Wii) - 475,000
> > 8. Left 4 Dead (Electronic Arts, Xbox 360) - 410,000
> > 9. Resistance 2 (Sony, PlayStation 3) - 385,000
> > 10. Wii Music (Nintendo, Wii) - 297,000
>
> > LittleBigPlanet we hardly knew ya...
>
> > - Jordan
>
> Weren't LBP and Resistance 2 supposed to clobber Gears 2?  LBP is
> really good though.
>
> - Rich
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> No one said LBP was supposed to clobber anything except Blig.  The whole
> stupidity of equating sales with quality is definitely wearing thin on me
> (to whoever hijacked the thread to try and bash LBP because of sales).
> There was no way either of those games could "clobber" Gears 2 in sales and
> everyone knew that except for trolls.  But LBP is still ranked a full
> percentage point higher on gamerankings.

And 2 points higher at Metacritic.com...

> If sales = quality, the Wii is a
> far superior console to the 360 even if the games are better.  If ratings
> matter, LBP is the GOTY.  Either way, there is no way to spin this to make
> MS come out smelling like roses

Well, if you really, really wanted to you could since there's more
than 400k more in units sold in the top 10 for Xbox 360 than there are
for Wii.

> so just accept that the Wii is kicking ass
> and Nintendo has already won this generation.  BTW, you don't have to use
> terms like Gaystation and Xflop to be a fanboy and that is becoming more
> obvious by threads like this.

What if I use terms like PS3tard and Xbot?


== 7 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 08:25
From: SteveZim1017


Wait, why do we care how many games get sold. I'm playing LBP and
fallout 3 right now (When I can get the wife to stop Wii Bowling or
Rockin it to Rock Band 2) and None are on the list. Who cares! The
"Better" game is purely subjective, which ever you enjoy the most is
the better one. and just cause Gears of War 47 or GTA 63 has Awsome
graphics doesnt make it better than Tetris on your cell phone if you
enjoy tetris more.

Can't we all just get along!


== 8 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 08:38
From: Doug Jacobs


In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 AirRaid <AirRaidJet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sony PlayStation3 - 378,000
>
> Microsoft Xbox 360 - 836,000
>
> Nintendo Wii - 2.04 MILLION
>
>
> http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21494

Physical numbers aside, the ratios seem to be in-line with previous
months' data. The Wii outsold the PS3+360 by almost 2:1.

--
It's not broken. It's...advanced.


== 9 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 09:36
From: Robert P Holley


On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sony PlayStation3  -  378,000
>
> Microsoft Xbox 360 -  836,000
>
> Nintendo Wii -  2.04 MILLION
>
> http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21494

The PS3 sells less than it did last November and the X360 sells more?
It's amazing how far Sony has fallen in just a few years. I can
remember how the PSP was going to dominate the DS and how the PS3 was
going to move 5 million units without any games.

Poor Sony, last place in both consoles and handhelds. Who would have
thunk it just a few years ago?


== 10 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 10:08
From: "mark johnson"

"Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote in message
news:82116bf7-96a8-439f-ad6b-a605004d2fd2@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sony PlayStation3 - 378,000
>
> Microsoft Xbox 360 - 836,000
>
> Nintendo Wii - 2.04 MILLION
>
> http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21494

The PS3 sells less than it did last November and the X360 sells more?
It's amazing how far Sony has fallen in just a few years. I can
remember how the PSP was going to dominate the DS and how the PS3 was
going to move 5 million units without any games.

Poor Sony, last place in both consoles and handhelds. Who would have
thunk it just a few years ago?

Its all to do with the price. Since Sony can't afford to drop the PS3's
price, it will stay last place.
Here in the UK, you can nearly buy three Xbox 360's for the cost of one PS3.

What I don't understand is, how come the PS3 has now passed the 360 by
300,000+ units in total across the PAL regions, but at its stupidly higher
price. Mind boggles!!


== 11 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 10:11
From: Doug Jacobs


In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Jordan <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 1. Gears of War 2 (Microsoft, Xbox 360) - 1.56 million
> 2. Call of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard, Xbox 360) - 1.41
> million
> 3. Wii Play (Nintendo, Wii) - 796,000
> 4. Wii Fit (Nintendo, Wii) - 697,000
> 5. Mario Kart (Nintendo, Wii) - 637,00
> 6. Call of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard, PS3) - 597,000
> 7. Guitar Hero: World Tour (Activision Blizzard, Wii) - 475,000
> 8. Left 4 Dead (Electronic Arts, Xbox 360) - 410,000
> 9. Resistance 2 (Sony, PlayStation 3) - 385,000
> 10. Wii Music (Nintendo, Wii) - 297,000
>
> LittleBigPlanet we hardly knew ya...

Ouch.

--
It's not broken. It's...advanced.


== 12 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 11:58
From: "Mattinglyfan"

"Doug Jacobs" <djacobs@rawbw.com> wrote in message
news:kNqdnbwZ1sPNNN_UnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@posted.rawbandwidth...
> In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Jordan <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 1. Gears of War 2 (Microsoft, Xbox 360) - 1.56 million
>> 2. Call of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard, Xbox 360) - 1.41
>> million
>> 3. Wii Play (Nintendo, Wii) - 796,000
>> 4. Wii Fit (Nintendo, Wii) - 697,000
>> 5. Mario Kart (Nintendo, Wii) - 637,00
>> 6. Call of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard, PS3) - 597,000
>> 7. Guitar Hero: World Tour (Activision Blizzard, Wii) - 475,000
>> 8. Left 4 Dead (Electronic Arts, Xbox 360) - 410,000
>> 9. Resistance 2 (Sony, PlayStation 3) - 385,000
>> 10. Wii Music (Nintendo, Wii) - 297,000
>>
>> LittleBigPlanet we hardly knew ya...
>
> Ouch.
>
> --
> It's not broken. It's...advanced.

Ouch what? LBP is better than every game on that list.

== 13 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 12:02
From: WDS


On Dec 11, 6:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sony PlayStation3  -  378,000
>
> Microsoft Xbox 360 -  836,000
>
> Nintendo Wii -  2.04 MILLION

The figures if you look at ALL consoles are even more interesting

1. Nintendo Wii - 2.04 million units
2. Nintendo DS - 1.57 million units
3. Microsoft Xbox 360 - 836,000 units
4. Sony PSP - 421,000 units
5. Sony Playstation 3 - 378,000 units
6. Sony Playstation 2 - 206,000 units


Wow. Nintendo sold over 3.5 million consoles. It's like printing
money for them.

I wonder if PS2 sales are cannibalizing PS3 sales or maybe if PS2
sales are financing the PS3?


== 14 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 12:35
From: Rich Hutnik


On Dec 12, 7:59 am, "Mattinglyfan" <kylerjainos...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Rich Hutnik" <richardhut...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9c979062-edb8-48b3-9b86-eeb5d0cf71c1@k41g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 12, 12:20 am, Jordan <lu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > LittleBigPlanet we hardly knew ya...
>
> > - Jordan
>
> Weren't LBP and Resistance 2 supposed to clobber Gears 2?  LBP is
> really good though.
>
> - Rich
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> No one said LBP was supposed to clobber anything except Blig.  The whole
> stupidity of equating sales with quality is definitely wearing thin on me
> (to whoever hijacked the thread to try and bash LBP because of sales).
> There was no way either of those games could "clobber" Gears 2 in sales and
> everyone knew that except for trolls.  But LBP is still ranked a full
> percentage point higher on gamerankings.  If sales = quality, the Wii is a
> far superior console to the 360 even if the games are better.  If ratings
> matter, LBP is the GOTY.  Either way, there is no way to spin this to make
> MS come out smelling like roses so just accept that the Wii is kicking ass
> and Nintendo has already won this generation.  BTW, you don't have to use
> terms like Gaystation and Xflop to be a fanboy and that is becoming more
> obvious by threads like this.

If Blig is a pseudonym for individuals who are the worst for fanboysm,
then a Blig did say it. It was someone else. I will say I was of the
belief that LBP had the potential to be a huge seller. However, among
those that were counting on games to turn the table, the belief was
that LBP was supposed to turn the table for the PS3. As a fan of LBP
(I want a Sackboy keychain!), it looks like LBP may be fitting into
sleeper hit title, something along the lines of what Sega had when t
was on the way out. Remembered fondly but not making a difference in
system sales.

- Rich


== 15 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 13:56
From: elrous0@pop.uky.edu


On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sony PlayStation3  -  378,000
>
> Microsoft Xbox 360 -  836,000
>
> Nintendo Wii -  2.04 MILLION
>
> http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21494

I still maintain that Ninendo has released some sort of virus that
makes people irrationally want to buy a Wii. Why else would so many
people buy a console with so few games? Why else would they still be
in such short supply when everyone is acknowleding that they have one
that's just gathering dust?

And these numbers also make me picture a Sony where everyone just sits
around reminiscing about the glory days of the PS2, back when they
weren't in a distant who-gives-a-shit third place. Seriously, they
were the only one here that didn't sell more consoles this month than
at the same time last year.


== 16 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 14:27
From: Ross Ridge


On Dec 11, 11:18=A0pm, ks...@webtv.net wrote:
> Wow, look at the software sales, 360 has the #1 and #2 position,
> beating the almighty Wii.

The alMIGHTY N <natlee75@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The Wii has positions 3, 4, 5 and 10.

And 7, but combined they don't quite beat the Xbox 360.

> The more notable part is that those 4 games are all first-party
>efforts which means Nintendo gets all of the profit instead of just a
>licensing cut.

No, what's really notable is that three of Wii titles are old games.
If it wasn't for the fact that they came with hardware, they'd be pure
profit. Nintendo earned back their development and marketting costs
long ago.

Too bad there just aren't many games on the system I'd want to play.

Ross Ridge

--
l/ // Ross Ridge -- The Great HTMU
[oo][oo] rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
-()-/()/ http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~rridge/
db //


== 17 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 15:49
From: "Game-Time"


"mark johnson" <mark-johnson@freeola.com> wrote in message
news:ghu9dn$1ts0$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote in message
> news:82116bf7-96a8-439f-ad6b-a605004d2fd2@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sony PlayStation3 - 378,000
>>
>> Microsoft Xbox 360 - 836,000
>>
>> Nintendo Wii - 2.04 MILLION
>>
>> http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21494

> What I don't understand is, how come the PS3 has now passed the 360 by
> 300,000+ units in total across the PAL regions, but at its stupidly higher
> price. Mind boggles!!
>

Where do you get your numbers? Though not totally reliable, VG Chartz shows
PAL regions having well more than 1M 360s in house over the PS3 and growing
again by leaps and bounds. Over the past month, the 360 has had doubled and
one time, tripled the weekly sales over the PS3.

http://www.vgchartz.com/ehweekly.php

== 18 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 16:05
From: "mark johnson"

"Game-Time" <urkiddingme@getalife.com> wrote in message
news:JpOdnQgJRcE8Zd_UnZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@insightbb.com...
>
>
> "mark johnson" <mark-johnson@freeola.com> wrote in message
> news:ghu9dn$1ts0$1@energise.enta.net...
>>
>> "Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote in message
>> news:82116bf7-96a8-439f-ad6b-a605004d2fd2@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Sony PlayStation3 - 378,000
>>>
>>> Microsoft Xbox 360 - 836,000
>>>
>>> Nintendo Wii - 2.04 MILLION
>>>
>>> http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21494
>
>> What I don't understand is, how come the PS3 has now passed the 360 by
>> 300,000+ units in total across the PAL regions, but at its stupidly
>> higher price. Mind boggles!!
>>
>
> Where do you get your numbers? Though not totally reliable, VG Chartz
> shows PAL regions having well more than 1M 360s in house over the PS3 and
> growing again by leaps and bounds. Over the past month, the 360 has had
> doubled and one time, tripled the weekly sales over the PS3.
>
> http://www.vgchartz.com/ehweekly.php
>
>

Just one article about it.

http://www.videogamer.com/news/04-12-2008-10110.html

And VGCharts have always undertracked the PS3.


== 19 of 19 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 16:16
From: "Game-Time"


"mark johnson" <mark-johnson@freeola.com> wrote in message
news:ghuuat$3h$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Game-Time" <urkiddingme@getalife.com> wrote in message
> news:JpOdnQgJRcE8Zd_UnZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>
>>
>> "mark johnson" <mark-johnson@freeola.com> wrote in message
>> news:ghu9dn$1ts0$1@energise.enta.net...
>>>
>>> "Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:82116bf7-96a8-439f-ad6b-a605004d2fd2@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Sony PlayStation3 - 378,000
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft Xbox 360 - 836,000
>>>>
>>>> Nintendo Wii - 2.04 MILLION
>>>>
>>>> http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21494
>>
>>> What I don't understand is, how come the PS3 has now passed the 360 by
>>> 300,000+ units in total across the PAL regions, but at its stupidly
>>> higher price. Mind boggles!!
>>>
>>
>> Where do you get your numbers? Though not totally reliable, VG Chartz
>> shows PAL regions having well more than 1M 360s in house over the PS3 and
>> growing again by leaps and bounds. Over the past month, the 360 has had
>> doubled and one time, tripled the weekly sales over the PS3.
>>
>> http://www.vgchartz.com/ehweekly.php
>>
>>
>
> Just one article about it.
>
> http://www.videogamer.com/news/04-12-2008-10110.html
>
> And VGCharts have always undertracked the PS3.
>

Not a resounding statement that he is confident the PS3 is ahead, he gives
no business indicators to show such a statistic. Having said that, if you
think the PS3 was undertracked, then you would have to hold the site to the
same degree as the other consoles sales. Remember, they all used shipped,
and not sold as the stat.. Having said that, I don't think that those
numbers since the middle of October are going to be off so much to favor the
360 or the Wii at this point. Here in the US, the PS3 is really taking a
nose dive as I see many consumers buying the cheaper BR players than the
PS3.

When I bought Fable II in October, I still saw Folklore selling for the same
release price and it was released a year before that.


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TOPIC: Australia Wii Games for European Wii Console?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.nintendo.wii/t/6d00977f2a963015
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri 12 Dec 2008 05:01
From: Peter Schmidt-Schmiedebach


Hi,

are australian Wii games playable in european Wii consoles? Both
countries support PAL system, but I am not quite sure if Nintendo has
some kind of regional codes build in the game disks.

Peter


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