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TOPIC: The Next Console Manufacturer - Electronic Arts?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.nintendo.wii/t/13820baab3024d81
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon 12 Jan 2009 14:43
From: "Tom"
"The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f71ddb7c-1e74-4db2-b278-c273abb0ffa4@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 12, 12:30 am, Rich Hutnik <richardhut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 11, 7:50 pm, parallax-scroll <parallaxscr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Jan 10, 4:40 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
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>> > >http://www.gamestooge.com/2009/01/10/feature-next-console-manufacture...
>>
>> > > Enjoy this vision of doom.
>>
>> > 3DO was once enough for EA to be in the console hardware buisness.
>> > They won't try again.
>>
>> 3DO was the brainchild of Trip Hawkins, NOT Electronic Arts. Trip
>> also founded EA, and had relationship with them, but the 3DO wasn't
>> EA's console.
>>
>> On this note, I believe this would be great news to help bury EA. The
>> moment they do that, one can imagine the NFL saying they won't renew
>> their exclusive license. It also, for me, makes it a LOT easier to
>> boycott them, because all I have to do is NOT buy their console.
>>
>> Anyhow, one possible scenario is that EA partners with Sega again, and
>> they both release a console together.
>
> I would *LOVE* another Sega system. I'm still stinging from the
> Dreamcast's demise and still hook that bad boy up every so often.
It's too bad bad Sega shot themselves in the foot with the way they handled
the Saturn into the Dreamcast transition. IMO, that system blew away the
Xbox and the PS2 for quality games during its first year.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 13 Jan 2009 06:30
From: The alMIGHTY N
On Jan 12, 5:43 pm, "Tom" <no...@nothere.com> wrote:
> "The alMIGHTY N" <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:f71ddb7c-1e74-4db2-b278-c273abb0ffa4@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
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> > On Jan 12, 12:30 am, Rich Hutnik <richardhut...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 11, 7:50 pm, parallax-scroll <parallaxscr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > On Jan 10, 4:40 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
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> >> > >http://www.gamestooge.com/2009/01/10/feature-next-console-manufacture...
>
> >> > > Enjoy this vision of doom.
>
> >> > 3DO was once enough for EA to be in the console hardware buisness.
> >> > They won't try again.
>
> >> 3DO was the brainchild of Trip Hawkins, NOT Electronic Arts. Trip
> >> also founded EA, and had relationship with them, but the 3DO wasn't
> >> EA's console.
>
> >> On this note, I believe this would be great news to help bury EA. The
> >> moment they do that, one can imagine the NFL saying they won't renew
> >> their exclusive license. It also, for me, makes it a LOT easier to
> >> boycott them, because all I have to do is NOT buy their console.
>
> >> Anyhow, one possible scenario is that EA partners with Sega again, and
> >> they both release a console together.
>
> > I would *LOVE* another Sega system. I'm still stinging from the
> > Dreamcast's demise and still hook that bad boy up every so often.
>
> It's too bad bad Sega shot themselves in the foot with the way they handled
> the Saturn into the Dreamcast transition. IMO, that system blew away the
> Xbox and the PS2 for quality games during its first year.
Hell, the Dreamcast had a pretty good launch lineup. Ready 2 Rumble
Boxing, Soul Calibur, Power Stone and Sonic Adventure right out of the
box? Hell, yeah.
Chu Chu Rocket, Dino Crisis, Virtua Fighter 3 and Street Fighter III
all in the first year. Capcom vs. SNK, Crazy Taxi, Dead or Alive 2,
Marvel vs. Capcom 2, and Samba di Amigo soon after.
The Dreamcast was just a sweet, sweet console.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 13 Jan 2009 07:40
From: elrous0@pop.uky.edu
On Jan 12, 10:03 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I would *LOVE* another Sega system. I'm still stinging from the
> Dreamcast's demise and still hook that bad boy up every so often.- Hide quoted text -
At this point, I can't even trust Sega to make a decent GAME, much
less a SYSTEM. The best thing they could do at this point would be to
shoot that poor old hedgehog in the head and pack it in.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 13 Jan 2009 09:16
From: The alMIGHTY N
On Jan 13, 10:40 am, elro...@pop.uky.edu wrote:
> On Jan 12, 10:03 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I would *LOVE* another Sega system. I'm still stinging from the
> > Dreamcast's demise and still hook that bad boy up every so often.- Hide quoted text -
>
> At this point, I can't even trust Sega to make a decent GAME, much
> less a SYSTEM. The best thing they could do at this point would be to
> shoot that poor old hedgehog in the head and pack it in.
I don't necessarily think that the two are intrinsically related.
Microsoft put together a decent game platform (yeah, yeah, RROD) but
they can't seem to make games if their lives depended on it.
Sonic is definitely past the point of relevance but then again many of
the great games on the Dreamcast were NOT Sega games.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 13 Jan 2009 09:45
From: Rich Hutnik
On Jan 13, 12:16 pm, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 13, 10:40 am, elro...@pop.uky.edu wrote:
>
> > On Jan 12, 10:03 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > I would *LOVE* another Sega system. I'm still stinging from the
> > > Dreamcast's demise and still hook that bad boy up every so often.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > At this point, I can't even trust Sega to make a decent GAME, much
> > less a SYSTEM. The best thing they could do at this point would be to
> > shoot that poor old hedgehog in the head and pack it in.
>
> I don't necessarily think that the two are intrinsically related.
> Microsoft put together a decent game platform (yeah, yeah, RROD) but
> they can't seem to make games if their lives depended on it.
>
> Sonic is definitely past the point of relevance but then again many of
> the great games on the Dreamcast were NOT Sega games.
Sega, like a lot of other companies, may of not been able to make the
transition to a new era. They are still stuck in the arcade era.
Among the 8bit to 16bit, only Activision and EA managed to make the
jump. A lot of other arcade companies managed to not make it either.
Midway is on their last legs. Midway consisted of Bally, Midway and
Williams. They didn't make it. Atari failed to. And we can be
looking at Sega being about done. Nintendo I exclude here, because
they never have gone the software only route, outside of maybe some
licensing deals.
There were people, with a batch of Sony fanboys, chiming in how
AWESOME it was that Sega didn't have their own console. Well, my take
was that, without a console, they wouldn't command the attention they
had when they had their own console. Does anyone know if any company
who used to make consoles survive being a software-only company? I
don't see any evidence of it being so.
- Rich
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 13 Jan 2009 11:07
From: The alMIGHTY N
On Jan 13, 12:45 pm, Rich Hutnik <richardhut...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 13, 12:16 pm, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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> > On Jan 13, 10:40 am, elro...@pop.uky.edu wrote:
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> > > On Jan 12, 10:03 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I would *LOVE* another Sega system. I'm still stinging from the
> > > > Dreamcast's demise and still hook that bad boy up every so often.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > At this point, I can't even trust Sega to make a decent GAME, much
> > > less a SYSTEM. The best thing they could do at this point would be to
> > > shoot that poor old hedgehog in the head and pack it in.
>
> > I don't necessarily think that the two are intrinsically related.
> > Microsoft put together a decent game platform (yeah, yeah, RROD) but
> > they can't seem to make games if their lives depended on it.
>
> > Sonic is definitely past the point of relevance but then again many of
> > the great games on the Dreamcast were NOT Sega games.
>
> Sega, like a lot of other companies, may of not been able to make the
> transition to a new era. They are still stuck in the arcade era.
> Among the 8bit to 16bit, only Activision and EA managed to make the
> jump. A lot of other arcade companies managed to not make it either.
> Midway is on their last legs. Midway consisted of Bally, Midway and
> Williams. They didn't make it. Atari failed to. And we can be
> looking at Sega being about done. Nintendo I exclude here, because
> they never have gone the software only route, outside of maybe some
> licensing deals.
>
> There were people, with a batch of Sony fanboys, chiming in how
> AWESOME it was that Sega didn't have their own console. Well, my take
> was that, without a console, they wouldn't command the attention they
> had when they had their own console. Does anyone know if any company
> who used to make consoles survive being a software-only company? I
> don't see any evidence of it being so.
Well, aside from Sega, you've got SNK, which is still limping along.
They, like Sega, *had* to get out of the hardware business entirely to
have any chance of survival. It's too bad, too, because the Neo Geo
Pocket Color was one sweet little portable.
There weren't very many consoles companies that were also viable
software publishers.
> - Rich
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